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原标题:没怎么被提过的小细节,对于开篇的追忆

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"细节是卖点"基本把大细节全说完了。。。今儿上课学到这部片儿了,讲了些前边评论中没怎么被提到过的小小细节,为之震惊 于是来补充一下。。。可能有点小啰嗦我文笔不好表拍我~

开篇的镜头总是藏有大量的故事线索,但是因为一开始没进入情节,往后看又忘了开篇讲了什么。所以我决定重新看一遍开头,理一下一开始就呈现的东西。

不得不说昆汀网罗的几个老男人真的很酷,开头几个爷们一本正经的谈论着麦当娜的专辑,对于阴茎
私处的一大堆的扯闲篇,瞬间把我拉回了大学寝室的时光:几个二逼无聊的在寝室躺着,一个傻逼费心想到一个梗,其他人立马扯到AV女优,扯到国际形势,最后以哲学收题并作结论评语。而最初话题提出者一心想要拉回最初的话头,几次插话,余者皆不合作,最后无奈的脸色。

我昨晚吃饭的时候看了《落水狗》(Reservoir Dogs),我发现我每次看R级影片的时候都在吃饭……

Dark as night and nearly as long, Christopher Nolan’s new Batman movie feels like a beginning and something of an end. Pitched at the divide between art and industry, poetry and entertainment, it goes darker and deeper than any Hollywood movie of its comic-book kind — including “Batman Begins,” Mr. Nolan’s 2005 pleasurably moody resurrection of the series — largely by embracing an ambivalence that at first glance might be mistaken for pessimism. But no work filled with such thrilling moments of pure cinema can be rightly branded pessimistic, even a postheroic superhero movie like “The Dark Knight.”

如下列出:

开头在饭馆讨论like a virgin. 很多电影都会有大量讨论经典作品的镜头,通常和主题相切。但是我读不太懂这个歌曲的寓意。

好吧,说回电影,乔是组织者,其余人者:Mr white,Mr blue,Mr brown,Mr blonde,Mr pink,Mr orange。这其中,BLUE 和BROWN基本是龙套,ORANGE是卧底,WHITE是个讲义气的人,拼死保ORANGE,而ORANGE和他也是同一类人,他们都讲义气,所以后来及时警察来了,ORANGE也要告诉WHITE真相,而WHITE在ORANGE即使快要死了,也要补上一枪,这就叫一报还一报,恩怨分明。这倒是感觉像中国的武侠或是杜琪峰的香港黑帮片。

因为昆汀的《低俗小说》很成功,所以我打算把他的处女作给看了,但后果是我身体不舒服了一晚上。不过我坚持把饭吃完了,我是不浪费的好孩子……

Apparently, truth, justice and the American way don’t cut it anymore. That may not fully explain why the last Superman took a nose dive (“Superman Returns,” if not for long), but I think it helps get at why, like other recent ambiguous American heroes, both supermen and super-spies, the new Batman soared. Talent played a considerable part in Mr. Nolan’s Bat restoration, naturally, as did his seriousness of purpose. He brought a gravitas to the superhero that wiped away the camp and kitsch that had shrouded Batman in cobwebs. It helped that Christian Bale, a reluctant smiler whose sharply planed face looks as if it had been carved with a chisel, slid into Bruce Wayne’s insouciance as easily as he did Batman’s suit.

故事发生的仓库是一个棺材仓库(coffin warehouse)

一开始发言的是brown,我对他印象不太深。但是!!看演员表时发现他就是昆汀!!!

最后说PINK从开头的吝啬,不愿付小费,到后来对内鬼的分析,以及对最后可能的结局,这是团伙中最精明的家伙,从头到尾一直在强调professional(没拼错吧?)。相比Mr blonde伴着摇滚乐一遍跳舞一遍挥舞着剃胡刀把那警察的耳朵割下的血腥精彩邪恶,相比Mr white的义气深重,从头到尾,此人一直是那种不是好人,但是邪恶的又不够彻底的家伙,不发没必要的火气,中庸而利益至上的家伙,深藏不漏。最后三人互相指枪,只有这哥们藏到踏板下面放出一记暗枪,然后卷走所有钻石。看到没,利益的最大化者,就是他。这叫啥,这他妈就叫专业啊。那一刻我仿佛看到星爷抽出了那本《演员的自我修养》低头默默阅读。

在一大堆人聚完餐之后,镜头就切换到Mr.Orange在流血,腹部涌出的汩汩红色液体染红了他的衣服和汽车后座,但他竟然还在大声说话,身体不停乱动。让我觉得我的肚子一阵抽紧,立刻没有进食的欲望。

The new Batman movie isn’t a radical overhaul like its predecessor, which is to be expected of a film with a large price tag (well north of $100 million) and major studio expectations (worldwide domination or bust). Instead, like other filmmakers who’ve successfully reworked genre staples, Mr. Nolan has found a way to make Batman relevant to his time — meaning, to ours — investing him with shadows that remind you of the character’s troubled beginning but without lingering mustiness. That’s nothing new, but what is surprising, actually startling, is that in “The Dark Knight,” which picks up the story after the first film ends, Mr. Nolan has turned Batman (again played by the sturdy, stoic Mr. Bale) into a villain’s sidekick.

Mr. Blonde出现时就坐在一对包好的棺材上面,隐喻他是个变态的热衷杀戮的人。

这时Mr. blond 反对,说是关于两个vulnerable的男女的。由此可以看出Mr. blond脆弱精神不正常的倾向。

所以,请不要叫我贼,请叫我专业的贼!!!

小括号君(在写这篇评论的时候,冷的我不得不一遍用热水泡着脚一边写,作为习惯了有暖气的冬天的东北爷们真心受不了成都阴冷潮湿的冬天,有没有人渡些真气给我,或传授些技能好让我挨过这冬天!)

我不希望这位钢琴师演员(Tim Roth在1998年出演著名电影《海上钢琴师》)就这么挂了,我还是很喜欢他的。但我惊奇的是他的同伴Mr.White并没送他去医院,而是把他带到一间仓库等“祖”的到来。现在连仓库地板上都是他的血了,他在血泊中蜷缩着,我看着那个揪心啊~

That would be the Joker, of course, a demonic creation and three-ring circus of one wholly inhabited by Heath Ledger. Mr. Ledger died in January at age 28 from an accidental overdose, after principal photography ended, and his death might have cast a paralyzing pall over the film if the performance were not so alive. But his Joker is a creature of such ghastly life, and the performance is so visceral, creepy and insistently present that the characterization pulls you in almost at once. When the Joker enters one fray with a murderous flourish and that sawed-off smile, his morbid grin a mirror of the Black Dahlia’s ear-to-ear grimace, your nervous laughter will die in your throat.

关于orange是卧底:

Joe一直在翻看自己的地址簿,他是更成熟的,对这些讨论不感兴趣。同时有主见。

随后从Mr.White和Mr.Pink的对话中了解到他们几个刚刚对珠宝店实施了持枪抢劫,并达成有人出卖他们的共识,另外还有三个“颜色”先生不知道是死是活,而“祖”是策划这起犯罪的头目。但可怜的钢琴师在地板上一直疼到电影结束,所以我也跟着一起难受……

A self-described agent of chaos, the Joker arrives in Gotham abruptly, as if he’d been hiding up someone’s sleeve. He quickly seizes control of the city’s crime syndicate and Batman’s attention with no rhyme and less reason. Mr. Ledger, his body tightly wound but limbs jangling, all but disappears under the character’s white mask and red leer. Licking and chewing his sloppy, smeared lips, his tongue darting in and out of his mouth like a jittery animal, he turns the Joker into a tease who taunts criminals (Eric Roberts’s bad guy, among them) and the police (Gary Oldman’s good cop), giggling while he-he-he (ha-ha-ha) tries to burn the world down. He isn’t fighting for anything or anyone. He isn’t a terrorist, just terrifying.

一开始pink和white在争论谁是卧底,房间的背景是一堆粉色和白色的瓶子在左边,一堆橙色的瓶子在右边。橙色瓶子就在指卧底就是orange。

Mr. white 的胳膊搭在Mr. orange的椅子上,显示他对他的亲密。他夺去Joe的本子,从对话中可以看到他并不怕Joe,Joe很尊重他。所以最后才有互相指枪的状态。

Mr.Blonde的出场使我的“难受”升级,他那么的泰然自若,他是所有演员中最帅的,可是……他等到所有人员离开仓库去取钻石后,开始虐待他捉到的一个警察,伴着收音机的音乐,边跳舞边取出小刀,我心想不是要进行凌迟吧,结果他真的一点一点把可怜的cop的耳朵给割了下来,还往他身上泼汽油,打算看焚烧现场。我肚子的不适蔓延至全身,哦买噶,帅哥原来是个大变态~在cop狂喊着stop的时候,在打火机就要掉落的时候,Mr.Blonde竟然鲜血四溅,被打成马蜂窝,我们那躺在地板上的橘先生手里握着射完子弹的手枪,“干得好”,我心里惊呼。原来他是个好人,是卧底条子,哈哈~

Mr. Nolan is playing with fire here, but partly because he’s a showman. Even before the Joker goes wild, the director lets loose with some comic horror that owes something to Michael Mann’s “Heat,” something to Cirque de Soleil, and quickly sets a tense, coiled mood that he sustains for two fast-moving hours of freakish mischief, vigilante justice, philosophical asides and the usual trinkets and toys, before a final half-hour pileup of gunfire and explosions. This big-bang finish — which includes a topsy-turvy image that poignantly suggests the world has been turned on its axis for good — is sloppy, at times visually incoherent, yet touching. Mr. Nolan, you learn, likes to linger in the dark, but he doesn’t want to live there.

小boss eddie在车里开往仓库时候车开过去,车碾压过去的正是橙色的气球(为毛不是别的颜色...所以也隐喻orange is the cop)。(这detail太小了老师说完之后我现去找了一下...- -)

Mr. blond说,want me to shoot this guy?一方面说明他有暴力倾向,另一方面说明他对Joe忠心。

但昆汀可不是完满结局的爱好者,戏剧化的镜头是“祖”赶来,认为橘先生是出卖他们的卧底,打算干掉他,而白先生则极力掩护,并对祖举起手枪,祖的儿子也在,于是一个三角恋,哦不,一个三角射击圈就形成了,伴着枪声,三人同时倒地,可怜的橘先生身上又多了一个洞洞,至于祖的儿子,应该是躲在角落的pink干掉的吧~

Though entranced by the Joker, Mr. Nolan, working from a script he wrote with his brother Jonathan Nolan, does make room for romance and tears and even an occasional (nonlethal) joke. There are several new characters, notably Harvey Dent (a charismatic Aaron Eckhart), a crusading district attorney and Bruce Wayne’s rival for the affection of his longtime friend, Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal, a happy improvement over Katie Holmes). Like almost every other character in the film, Batman and Bruce included, Harvey and Rachel live and work in (literal) glass houses. The Gotham they inhabit is shinier and brighter than the antiqued dystopia of “Batman Begins”: theirs is the emblematic modern megalopolis (in truth, a cleverly disguised Chicago), soulless, anonymous, a city of distorting and shattering mirrors.

关于orange和white的感情;

Joe付账,说明他是老大。

最最后,pink抱着钻石逃走,警察很快赶来(哎,警察总是迟到),白先生和橘先生都还有口气,抱在一起,橘先生万万不该那么诚实,他对白先生说出自己是警察,不断的说sorry,白先生脸上那复杂的表情可想而知,他把枪对准橘先生的脑袋,砰的一声,接着是一片砰砰声……

From certain angles, the city the Joker threatens looks like New York, but it would be reductive to read the film too directly through the prism of 9/11 and its aftermath. You may flash on that day when a building collapses here in a cloud of dust, or when firemen douse some flames, but those resemblances belong more rightly to our memories than to what we see unfolding on screen. Like any number of small- and big-screen thrillers, the film’s engagement with 9/11 is diffuse, more a matter of inference and ideas (chaos, fear, death) than of direct assertion. Still, that a spectacle like this even glances in that direction confirms that American movies have entered a new era of ambivalence when it comes to their heroes — or maybe just superness.

片头大家早餐时每个人都是独立或者两个三个混杂一起出现的镜头,可white&orange却有很长的接近三分钟的取景和剪切!!!(framing and cuting..)

Mr. pink拒绝付小费,说明他爱钱,所以后来他抢到了钻石。而且他是以利益第一的,不会在乎恩怨情仇,所以最后脱身。

电影的叙事结构很棒,也埋服了很多伏笔。可惜我对血腥和暴力还是没有什么抵御力,电影里冗长的对白也让我没有耐心,我从对白里就听出一个词"fuck",据统计有252次~

In and out of his black carapace and on the restless move, Batman remains, perhaps not surprisingly then, a recessive, almost elusive figure. Part of this has to do with the costume, which has created complications for every actor who wears it. With his eyes dimmed and voice technologically obscured, Mr. Bale, who’s suited up from the start, doesn’t have access to an actor’s most expressive tools. (There are only so many ways to eyeball an enemy.) Mr. Nolan, having already told Batman’s origin story in the first film, initially doesn’t appear motivated to advance the character. Yet by giving him rivals in love and war, he has also shifted Batman’s demons from inside his head to the outside world.

orange和他那位black cop(his trainer) 在咖啡店第一次提到这群坏蛋的时,说到一位long beach mike,orange说"he's a good guy" 然后black cop立马打断他 说这人是fucking scumbag. orange从这儿就开始有点倾向这群坏人。后来他和white产生的感情是昆汀从吴宇森的<喋血双雄>(1989) 借鉴来的。早期吴宇森的香港电影典型套路是 1, 抓人性. (记得发哥的枪战和同时漫天飞的圣母雕像还有鸽子不奥门新萄京娱乐场,~) 2, 两个相互很有感情的人,一个被另外一个出卖却不愿意认同这个结果。然后很痛苦纠结。。 昆汀就是搬用了john woo大导演的招牌人物关系运用在了orange&white身上。

Mr. white批评Mr. pink的话可以看出他是比较有正义感和同情心的,所以他后来誓死保护Mr.orange,又亲自杀了他。

评价:这是一部让我生理难受超过心理难受的影片。

That change in emphasis leaches the melodrama from Mr. Nolan’s original conception, but it gives the story tension and interest beyond one man’s personal struggle. This is a darker Batman, less obviously human, more strangely other. When he perches over Gotham on the edge of a skyscraper roof, he looks more like a gargoyle than a savior. There’s a touch of demon in his stealthy menace. During a crucial scene, one of the film’s saner characters asserts that this isn’t a time for heroes, the implication being that the moment belongs to villains and madmen. Which is why, when Batman takes flight in this film, his wings stretching across the sky like webbed hands, it’s as if he were trying to possess the world as much as save it.

orange一团乱的家里那段,带戒指隐喻可能失败的婚姻感情。white跟joe的谈话里面也提到了white和他的一位女朋友分手,所以white感情上也多少处于失落状态。

没怎么被提过的小细节,对于开篇的追忆。Mr.orange 先是顺着pink说也不想给小费,后来在Joe质问时又积极举报。说明他的身份。

In its grim intensity, “The Dark Knight” can feel closer to David Fincher’s “Zodiac” than Tim Burton’s playfully gothic “Batman,” which means it’s also closer to Bob Kane’s original comic and Frank Miller’s 1986 reinterpretation. That makes it heavy, at times almost pop-Wagnerian, but Mr. Ledger’s performance and the film’s visual beauty are transporting. (In Imax, it’s even more operatic.) No matter how cynical you feel about Hollywood, it is hard not to fall for a film that makes room for a shot of the Joker leaning out the window of a stolen police car and laughing into the wind, the city’s colored lights gleaming behind him like jewels. He’s just a clown in black velvet, but he’s also some kind of masterpiece.

white和pink两人开始的那段,white说来说去都是怎么送orange去医院。他憔悴,后退依靠着墙,即使orange知道自己底细还是心软想送去医院。和pink打起来持枪相对也全部因为pink做出了'坚决不能送去医院'这个决定。

离开时的旁白 Doesn't somebody want to be wanted 和 love grows Where my rosemary goes的含义不太明白。另外K-Belly的Super Sounds of the 70s 在整部电影中被提及了三次,我也不明白。

“The Dark Knight” is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Consistently violent but not bloody.

orange是个"疯子"。整篇orange只有一个mirror shot(电影中出现镜子一般都是隐喻两种对立感情) 且orange的是一个full length mirror shot在他临走下楼时, 镜子中的照出了两个完整的人。如果他下楼,便发生了接下来的种种。如果他不下楼,故事就停止了。他用crazy的口吻跟镜子中的自己对话。下楼以后我们在cop的车里听那几个警察边跟踪他们边说“这卧底就是一疯子”。 他在片尾跟white坦白了自己就是卧底,这是一个没理智的人做的事,说白了也是一疯子。(pink依旧是唯一"professional"的) 当然 坦白的原因也包括对white的感情因素。

最后走在街上真是帅呆了。

THE DARK KNIGHT

white是全片另外一个有mirror shot的人。且他有很多个mirror shots. 从一开始跟pink争论谁是卧底时,镜头在他俩侧面,到后来说话时很久都是对着镜子。white对orange一直有emotional attachment, 改变了他的原本的自己和理智的思路。

顺便一提,后面赋予化名的那部分很搞笑哈哈。

Opens on Friday nationwide.

Mr. Brown死在车里之后 orange就特呆,然后是white拍着他的肩膀推耸着往前走.镜头对准他俩背影的时候长达好几秒的white手搭在orange肩膀上带着他跑,两个人在一个镜头。(个人觉得好甜蜜啊....- -)

也许是我过度解读了,但是这是我的乐趣所在哈哈。

Directed by Christopher Nolan; written by Jonathan Nolan and Christopher Nolan, based on a story by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer; Batman character created by Bob Kane; Batman and other characters from the DC comic books; director of photography, Wally Pfister; edited by Lee Smith; music by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard; production designer, Nathan Crowley; produced by Charles Roven, Emma Thomas and Christopher Nolan; released by Warner Brothers Pictures. Running time: 2 hours 32 minutes.

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WITH: Christian Bale (Bruce Wayne/Batman), Michael Caine (Alfred), Heath Ledger (the Joker), Gary Oldman (James Gordon), Aaron Eckhart (Harvey Dent), Maggie Gyllenhaal (Rachel Dawes) and Morgan Freeman (Lucius Fox).

joe and eddie和Mr. blonde的关系非同寻常的好,虽然这一点不用多提。从blonde进office开始, joe就立刻站起来,完全过分热情,对其他人却并非如此。而且eddie把blonde加入他们新案子也是个临时决定,joe见white时就说是'its a five man job"。They dont bring new guys but vic(blonde).

先写到这儿...
乱七八糟细节我剪切了一些在我相册....大家看着方便啦~
http://www.douban.com/photos/album/61175938/

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